Episode 13

How do we lead from the heart while in uncertainty?


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In our thirteenth episode, our guests discuss leadership and how we can choose to lead from the heart, especially through chaos and uncertainty.

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Welcoming Our Guests

We were honored to welcome our panel of special guests eager to discuss the ways one can lead from the heart.

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Mark C. Crowley is the bestselling author of the book Lead From The Heart: Transformational Leadership for the 21st Century. Mark is a leadership consultant and speaker with the goal to change how we lead and manage people in the workplace. He believes that the workplace should be more supportive of human needs.


Rúna Bouius is the founder and CEO of Klassík (a wholesaler of cosmetics) which she started when she was only 23 years old. During 20 years as CEO at Klassík, Rúna evolved into a “Conscious Leader.” Now based in Los Angeles she is the founder of the True Power Institute and co-founder of social platforms such as the “Conscious Capitalism LA Chapter.”


Lisa Gill is an organizational self-management coach and Reimaginaire. She is an accredited trainer for Tuff Leadership Training. Lisa helps companies become self-managing entities. She facilitates leadership courses in a more adult-adult coaching style of leadership. Lisa also hosts the Leadermorphosis podcast, where she interviews thought leaders and practitioners from all walks of life.


Patrick Kilcline Novak is the Chief Empowerment Officer & Founder of Trident Strategies. Patrick has over 16 years of experience in the Department of Defense (DoD) and other military contracting environments. He is passionate about empowering leaders to be their best. Patrick is a graduate of the US Naval Academy.


Few current leaders were selected based on the idea of sacred leadership which chooses individuals based on their humility, compassion, and their desire to resolve conflicts.

Rethinking leadership and leading from our hearts is a personal choice that starts with asking ourselves difficult questions, an opportunity, that Runa calls inward leadership.

To unlearn the lessons learned from institutions and previous role models, we must start with our heartfelt intentions:

  • What kind of leader do we want to become?

  • Why do we think we can be a good leader?

  • What type of culture do we want to create?


These questions are foundational as we bring people from various backgrounds together and create a common set of values.


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