Episode 17

 But what is Love, after all?

In this special summer 2020 series, episode seventeenth, we’re shifting from our usual unscripted group exploration to a one-on-one interview.


We sent six questions to our guests ahead of time and asked them to come prepared to share their answers.


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Welcome to intimate, one-on-one conversations with people from various walks of life, as we revisit one of the most iconic and fascinating ideas in history, an idea so strong it can change our world in crisis: Love.

When our habits are disrupted, our jobs are disappearing, our relationships are tested, and our truths are questioned, when everything has gone haywire and nothing makes sense anymore, all we have left is love. 

Aaron Force
Jim Spivey
Rashmir Balasubramaniam
Dr. Gary Gruber
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Dr. Gary Gruber

Author and Transition Management Consultant

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Mark C. Crowley

Author of the book Lead From The Heart: Transformational Leadership for the 21st Century

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John Poehler

Author and Mental Health Advocate on Bipolar Disorder

Marck C. Crowley
John Poehler
Dr. Mike Watson
Dan Rockwell
Pádraig Ó Tuama

Connect With Our Guests

 Aaron Force is a Researcher, Writer and Author of  "What is Transpersonal Extropy"  exploring the concept of a global awakening, or shift, within humanity. He experienced his own spiritual awakening in 2015, an event that has led him to develop and discuss ideas about ego and the nature of an expanded state of consciousness to impact humanity's future.

Jim Spivey is a Partner at Mazzi Partners. Jim brings his experience as a former business executive, executive coach and life coach to his sacred work as a modern-day mystic at a small firm focused on holding space for awakening and transformation for both individuals and communities. He is inspired by Jesus, Khalil Gibran, Rumi, and his wife Bunmi in his surrender of his life and will to Grace and Love.

Rashmir Balasubramaniam is a thought partner, coach and strategic advisor who helps leaders of transformational systems change and their teams harness rapid change and uncertainty to learn, grow, and lead with presence, purpose, creativity and joy. She has worked with some of the poorest and wealthiest people on the planet, including the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, Nesta, the National Health Service, the World Bank and the Rapid Results Institute. She has taught and mentored graduate students and entrepreneurs at the University of Washington's Foster School of Business, Presidio Graduate School, and Fledge - a conscious company incubator. With over 25 years of experience across the public, private and nonprofit sectors, including six years in international finance, Rashmir has a proven ability to build trust and consensus, work strategically, generate tangible results, and unleash confidence, creativity, and capabilities amongst diverse cultural and multidisciplinary groups. 

Dr. Mike Watson is a proven leader, facilitator, speaker and educator with expertise in integrative thinking, ethical leadership, communication, marketing and instructional design. He is a senior leadership professional specializing in the construction, design, and implementation of innovative, strategic organizational initiatives and graduate online leadership courses. He is a recognized industry and academic leader with the ability to purposefully guide and inspire collaboration and interdependent teamwork to accomplish challenging goals. Dr. Watson believes in working with individuals and leaders who are inclined toward worthy goals, guided by core human values and in relationship with all stakeholders. He believes in the power of purposeful tension, active patience, diversity, working collaboratively and the development of personal insight as a tool for prosperity. Mike Watson has partnered with a wide range of professionals, from CEOs to creatives. He’s been a subject matter expert on HuffingtonPost Live, emcee and the host for multiple TEDx events, shaped a national retail company's visual footprint and brand image, as well as designed retail stores.

Gary Gruber is an author and Transition Management Consultant. Dr. Gary Gruber has served in leadership roles for many years.  He has taught in college and university settings, co-authored a book “Understanding & Enjoying Adolescence” (1988) and published two recent ones, “Seven Decades: A Learning Memoir” (2013) and “Your Child, Your Choice: Finding the Right School for Your Child.” (2014). Gary served as a Chaplain and Department Head at Choate Rosemary Hall, was the Head of School at The Shipley School in Bryn Mawr, Pennsylvania, and was the founding head of Bosque School in Albuquerque, where he served as the Interim Head of School during the 2010-11 school year. As the founder of a non-profit group, the “Southwest Institute for Educational Research and Professional Teacher Development,” Gary was instrumental in that entity evolving into “The Santa Fe Leadership Center.” 


Mark C. Crowley is the bestselling author of the book Lead From The Heart: Transformational Leadership for the 21st Century. Mark is a leadership consultant and speaker with the goal to change how we lead and manage people in the workplace. He believes that the workplace should be more supportive of human needs.

John Poehler is the creator of the award-winning blog - The Bipolar Battle. John is the author of the book “This War Within My Mind” and the host of the podcast “The Bipolar Battle” helping those living with bipolar disorder. As a Winner of the WEGOHealthAward, he was recognized as a voice bringing empathy back into healthcare and helping to create a better tomorrow as a mental health advocate.

As someone living with bipolar disorder, John has firsthand experience managing it on a daily basis. He sees himself as a warrior and bipolar disorder as the battle, an empowering perspective that he adopts in all areas of his life. 

Dan Rockwell is listed in the Top Fifty Leadership and Management Expert and Top 100 Great Leadership Speakers by Inc Magazine and he is the author behind the Leadership Freak blog, which according to the Center for Management and Organization Effectiveness, is the most socially shared leadership blog on the Internet. Dan started his career in the nonprofit world and has earned an MBA and undergraduate degrees in Theology, Pastoral Ministry, and Construction and Design. He owned two businesses and served fifteen years as a Workforce Development Consultant for a Penn State University Special Affiliate. In that capacity, he designed courses, hired and mentored instructors, and delivered hundreds of presentations for local, regional, and global organizations. Today, Dan coaches leaders, consults with organizations, and delivers corporate and community presentations.

Pádraig Ó Tuama is the host of ‘Poetry Unbound’ from On Being Studios. As a poet and theologian, his work centres around themes of language, power, conflict and religion. From 2014-2019 he was the leader of the Corrymeela Community, Ireland’s oldest peace and reconciliation community.  Ó Tuama’s published work incorporates poetry _Readings from the Book of Exile [longlisted for the Polari Prize 2013]; Sorry for your Troubles_, prose (In The Shelter) and theology (Daily Prayer; Borders and Belonging [forthcoming Nov 2021]). His poetry has been featured by AAR’s ‘Poem a Day’, RTÉ’s ‘Poem of the Week’ and Poetry Ireland. 



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Dr. Mike Watson

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Speaker and Author of The leadership Freak

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Pádraig Ó Tuama

Poet, theologian and Mediator, Host of "Unbound Poetry" from On Being studio

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Aaron Force

Researcher, Writer and Author of  "What is Transpersonal Extropy"


Jim Spivey

Chief Relationship Officer

Mazzi Partners


Rashmir Balasubramaniam

 Transformational Coach and Catalyst